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| *Ostroff, Fair and Company>>>Marketing & Sales |
My boss disagrees w/me being promoted and getting a raise. How do I bring this up diplomatically to his boss? |
I'm not yet promoted and I'm having one last sit down with him before going to his boss. I'm seeing people whom I helped train get promoted before me to a position with a title higher than mine. I'm not sure if his standards are high or if I'm being discriminated against. I'm a hispanic male - 34 yrs old. Pick your battles....Since you can not win this argument, no matter how right you are, it is not worth fighting....All you can do is quietly look elsewhere and move on.....Your boss's boss is just going to back up your boss.....It is just how things work... If your boss says no to a raise, his boss will never give you a raise.............so if you think you deserve and can get more $$ some where else, start looking in your spare time. Don't give your notice until you have secured another job. Good luck... Good Morning - Touchy spot, you're in. I would make sure I did my homework before going over your boss' head; it could backfire on you. Has your boss told you why you haven't gotten a promotion? Has this been documented, along with a plan of action for you to get promoted (e.g. get cross functional experience, higher degree, network, etc...). If so, have you achieved these goals? I would avise against the "Why have I not been promoted, when AAA, BBB and CCC are being promoted" angle. It comes across as whiny (not saying you're doing this, but just advising against). For this last session, I would take the "How do I go about getting promoted to XXX". Have him/her document the steps you need to take, then go take those steps. Then, hold your boss accountable. Good luck, TBD If you look at the work you do and the work they do, and honestly can't see why they are promoted in front of you, you do need to talk with him. Hold off on using the discrimination word as long as possible--once you throw that word out, he'll be defensive and you'll have trouble getting the truth out of him. I'd ask him 'what problems do you find with the quality of my work?' If he describes you as a solid worker, or the weaknesses he points out are minor, then maybe you should find a way to let his boss know. I've found that back-office methods are more effective for getting past discrimination than the direct route. (The direct route is going to his boss or HR, and if they don't do anything calling the EEOC. It's fighting--if this can still be fixed without a fight, do it the easy way.) I think it is time to use the gossip mill at work to your advantage. If you have a reputation amongst your coworkers for being good, get them talking about how you should have got that job, the person who got it is ok, but you've been doing it as well for years longer, and that they wonder why you aren't taking action. Have it get back to the boss that people (and not just you) think you have been treated unfairly. They'll be sure to give you the next promotion, especially if giving it to a white guy would make the whole office think your boss discriminates because you so obviously deserve it. If you can't get that kind of support from your coworkers, there is a chance you aren't as good as you think you are--ask someone to be honest with you and tell you what they think of your work. I've walked into an office as a temp, was trained by someone who had been at that desk six years, and four months later I was doing the job better than she was, and I got hired to a better position than she held. A lot of the problem was that she did her job adequately, and that was it. She never tried to improve how she or the office worked--if there was a problem, she'd complain about it instead of fixing it. She was supposed to be a 'supervisor', but she just did her job and supervised no one. So they let her stay there, do her job, and will never promote her until that lack of leadership changes. While the new guy she trained got promoted. don't whine about it to anyone else, especially not your boss's boss. if there's anything you can do, it's going to be your performance that will speak loudest for your abilities. be subtle, but try to put yourself in position - volunteer for a project, as example - where the higher authority will most likely notice your abilities. after all, shouldn't your promotion be performance based? make it happen! |
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